Everybody you HAVE to read this!!!

This is doing the rounds, i think it helps.

Good stuff on here! I can finally throw in my two cents! I’ve had to bite my tongue for far too long. Also, hopefully I can answer some of John’s questions about Dharma and the “pointless breadcrumbs” that really, weren’t so pointless …

First …
The Island:

It was real. Everything that happened on the island that we saw throughout the 6 seasons was real. Forget the final image of the plane crash, it was put in purposely to f*&k with people’s heads and show how far the show had come. They really crashed. They really survived. They really discovered Dharma and the Others. The Island keeps the balance of good and evil in the world. It always has and always will perform that role. And the Island will always need a “Protector”. Jacob wasn’t the first, Hurley won’t be the last. However, Jacob had to deal with a malevolent force (MIB) that his mother, nor Hurley had to deal with. He created the devil and had to find a way to kill him — even though the rules prevented him from actually doing so.

Thus began Jacob’s plan to bring candidates to the Island to do the one thing he couldn’t do. Kill the MIB. He had a huge list of candidates that spanned generations. Yet everytime he brought people there, the MIB corrupted them and caused them to kill one another. That was until Richard came along and helped Jacob understand that if he didn’t take a more active role, then his plan would never work.

Enter Dharma — which I’m not sure why John is having such a hard time grasping. Dharma, like the countless scores of people that were brought to the island before, were brought there by Jacob as part of his plan to kill the MIB. However, the MIB was aware of this plan and interferred by “corrupting” Ben. Making Ben believe he was doing the work of Jacob when in reality he was doing the work of the MIB. This carried over into all of Ben’s “off-island” activities. He was the leader. He spoke for Jacob as far as they were concerned. So the “Others” killed Dharma and later were actively trying to kill Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley and all the candidates because that’s what the MIB wanted. And what he couldn’t do for himself.

Dharma was originally brought in to be good. But was turned bad by MIB’s corruption and eventually destroyed by his pawn Ben. Now, was Dharma only brought there to help Jack and the other Canditates on their overall quest to kill Smokey? Or did Jacob have another list of Canidates from the Dharma group that we were never aware of? That’s a question that is purposley not answered because whatever answer the writers came up with would be worse than the one you come up with for yourself. Still … Dharma’s purpose is not “pointless” or even vague. Hell, it’s pretty blantent.

Still, despite his grand plan, Jacob wanted to give his “candidates” (our Lostaways) the one thing he, nor his brother, were ever afforded: free will. Hence him bringing a host of “candidates” through the decades and letting them “choose” which one would actually do the job in the end. Maybe he knew Jack would be the one to kill Flocke and that Hurley would be the protector in the end. Maybe he didn’t. But that was always the key question of the show: Fate vs Free-will. Science vs Faith. Personally I think Jacob knew from the beginning what was going to happen and that everyone played a part over 6 seasons in helping Jack get to the point where he needed to be to kill Smokey and make Hurley the protector — I know that’s how a lot of the writers viewed it. But again, they won’t answer that (nor should they) because that ruins the fun.

In the end, Jack got to do what he always wanted to do from the very first episode of the show: Save his fellow Lostaways. He got Kate and Sawyer off the island and he gave Hurley the purpose in life he’d always been missing. And, in Sideways world (which we’ll get to next) he in fact saved everyone by helping them all move on …


Sideways World:

Sideways world is where it gets really cool in terms of theology and metaphysical discussion (for me at least — because I love history/religion theories and loved all the talks in the writer’s room about it). Basically what the show is proposing is that we’re all linked to certain people during our lives. Call them soulmates (though it’s not exactly the best word). But these people we’re linked to are with us duing “the most important moments of our lives” as Christian said. These are the people we move through the universe with from lifetime to lifetime. It’s loosely based in Hinduisim with large doses of western religion thrown into the mix.

The conceit that the writers created, basing it off these religious philosophies, was that as a group, the Lostaways subconsciously created this “sideways” world where they exist in purgatory until they are “awakened” and find one another. Once they all find one another, they can then move on and move forward. In essence, this is the show’s concept of the afterlife. According to the show, everyone creates their own “Sideways” purgatory with their “soulmates” throughout their lives and exist there until they all move on together. That’s a beautiful notion. Even if you aren’t religious or even spirtual, the idea that we live AND die together is deeply profound and moving.

It’s a really cool and spirtual concept that fits the whole tone and subtext the show has had from the beginning. These people were SUPPOSED to be together on that plane. They were supposed to live through these events — not JUST because of Jacob. But because that’s what the universe or God (depending on how religious you wish to get) wanted to happen. The show was always about science vs faith — and it ultimately came down on the side of faith. It answered THE core question of the series. The one question that has been at the root of every island mystery, every character backstory, every plot twist. That, by itself, is quite an accomplishment.

How much you want to extrapolate from that is up to you as the viewer. Think about season 1 when we first found the Hatch. Everyone thought that’s THE answer! Whatever is down there is the answer! Then, as we discovered it was just one station of many. One link in a very long chain that kept revealing more, and more of a larger mosiac.

But the writer’s took it even further this season by contrasting this Sideways “purgatory” with the Island itself. Remember when Michael appeared to Hurley, he said he was not allowed to leave the Island. Just like the MIB. He wasn’t allowed into this sideways world and thus, was not afforded the opportunity to move on. Why? Because he had proven himself to be unworthy with his actions on the Island. He failed the test. The others, passed. They made it into Sideways world when they died — some before Jack, some years later. In Hurley’s case, maybe centuries later. They exist in this sideways world until they are “awakened” and they can only move on TOGETHER because they are linked. They are destined to be together for eternity. That was their destiny.

They were NOT linked to Anna Lucia, Daniel, Roussou, Alex, Miles, Lupidis, (and all the rest who weren’t in the chuch — basically everyone who wasn’t in season 1). Yet those people exist in Sideways world. Why? Well again, here’s where they leave it up to you to decide. The way I like to think about it, is that those people who were left behind in Sideways world have to find their own soulmates before they can wake up. It’s possible that those links aren’t people from the island but from their other life (Anna’s parnter, the guy she shot — Roussou’s husband, etc etc).

A lot of people have been talking about Ben and why he didn’t go into the Church. And if you think of Sideways world in this way, then it gives you the answer to that very question. Ben can’t move on yet because he hasn’t connected with the people he needs to. It’s going to be his job to awaken Roussou, Alex, Anna Lucia (maybe), Ethan, Goodspeed, his father and the rest. He has to attone for his sins more than he did by being Hurley’s number two. He has to do what Hurley and Desmond did for our Lostaways with his own people. He has to help them connect. And he can only move on when all the links in his chain are ready to. Same can be said for Faraday, Charlotte, Whidmore, Hawkins etc. It’s really a neat, and cool concept. At least to me.

But, from a more “behind the scenes” note: the reason Ben’s not in the church, and the reason no one is in the church but for Season 1 people is because they wrote the ending to the show after writing the pilot. And never changed it. The writers always said (and many didn’t believe them) that they knew their ending from the very first episode. I applaud them for that. It’s pretty fantastic. Originally Ben was supposed to have a 3 episode arc and be done. But he became a big part of the show. They could have easily changed their ending and put him in the church — but instead they problem solved it. Gave him a BRILLIANT moment with Locke outside the church … and then that was it. I loved that. For those that wonder — the original ending started the moment Jack walked into the church and touches the casket to Jack closing his eyes as the other plane flies away. That was always JJ’s ending. And they kept it.

For me the ending of this show means a lot. Not only because I worked on it, but because as a writer it inspired me in a way the medium had never done before. I’ve been inspired to write by great films. Maybe too many to count. And there have been amazing TV shows that I’ve loved (X-Files, 24, Sopranos, countless 1/2 hour shows). But none did what LOST did for me. None showed me that you could take huge risks (writing a show about faith for network TV) and stick to your creative guns and STILL please the audience. I learned a lot from the show as a writer. I learned even more from being around the incredible writers, producers, PAs, interns and everyone else who slaved on the show for 6 years.

In the end, for me, LOST was a touchstone show that dealt with faith, the afterlife, and all these big, spirtual questions that most shows don’t touch. And to me, they never once waivered from their core story — even with all the sci-fi elements they mixed in. To walk that long and daunting of a creative tightrope and survive is simply astounding.

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15 thoughts on “Everybody you HAVE to read this!!!

  1. Daddyx, great post. And you did what I’ve been trying to tell everydody to do with the ending. Look deeper for your answers. You’re spot on about why Ben, Faraday, and other characters are not in the church, both from the narrative viewpoint and what the writers intended. Good job.

  2. Brilliant summary! However, I found one chink in the armor. You said the people in the church were there because they were all in Season 1, and the writers had written the ending at the beginning and didn’t want to change that. So then how does that account for Desmond, Penny, and Juliet being in the church?

  3. First off all as much as I wish I could I can’t take credit for this. I copied and pasted it from another site. So any failings you find are not with my logic. Secondly everyone needs to remember what Christian said to Jack. EVERYTHING that happened to you on the island was real. If you can grasp that one concept then you will start to understand better. If you don’t or if you refuse to grasp that concept the you are the architect of your own misery and confusion.

  4. I read this yesterday at Lostpedia and apparantly it’s written by someone who works at Bad Robot.

    I don’t buy that for a second. Not with spelling mistakes in names and wrong information etc.

    He claims they wrote the ending after The Pilot and that the reason Ben wasn’t in the church was because he wasn’t in Season One. So what about Desmond, Penny and Juliet?

    Also, if they knew it was going to end like that why not make the show lead up to that over the seasons, rather than introduce mysteries and questions that were never part of the bigger picture.

  5. Emzi i’m not questioning the veracity of this. I do thinks it makes a lot of sense, and a little bit of nonsense. For what it’s worth I didnt like the ending at first. I think the reason they had to keep creating mysteries that were left unresolved was because the series was originally meant to be shorter. ABC however realized that massive viewing figures meant massive advertising revenue forcing the writers to think up ways to keep the show exciting. When it came time for the final season ABC saw that a drop in viewing figures meant a drop in advertising revenue for a show with high production costs. This meant a limited budget and limited airtime. The law of dimishing returns also plays a part. We all deserve a party to cheer us up. Your the host for this site, any plans for a lost themed weekend we can all meet at.

  6. I’m gonna get some hateful responses for saying this but…..Most of this is obvious. It doesn’t explain much of anything when it’s all said and done. No kidding the island was real, and the sideways was the afterlife. No kidding Jacob wanted smokie’s existence to end.

    There’s a lot of assumptions in there too though. There’s no proof that Dharma was summoned to the island for the sole purpose of destroying Smokie. It’s fun to imagine that, but where’s the proof within the show? How are people supposed to piece things together when there’s nothing TO piece together?

    Yeah, I read this yesterday too, and quite frankly I’m surprised so many people get a kick out of it. Did that many people REALLY think the island happenings weren’t real?

    Sorry Daddyx, I know you were trying to help.

    Either I’m blind, or this post simply summarizes things most of us should already know.

  7. And yeah, the author of this didn’t know what he was talking about. “Jacob probably knew Jack was going to be the one to kill Smokie.” YET…”Jacob brought Dharma to the island to try to kill Smokie.”

    If this guy truly worked for Bad Robot, he definitley wasn’t in the cool crowd, as he was told nothing about the show.

  8. Your certainly not blind chief, it does summarize a lot of things that we all should know. I posted this out of frustration for exactly that point. It’s amazing how so many people can watch a show so intently and miss so much. If there was one man I’d trust to sniff out the bullshit then it would be you.

  9. Oh, well thanks daddyx. I didn’t realize you posted this outta frustration. I probably wouldn’t have lost my temper like I did 🙂

  10. This is just some guy’s theory… I’ve seen it posted all over the internet the last couple of days. Really, it’s not a very good theory. There are huge reaches here like that Jacob has been bringing people to the island to kill his brother. That doesn’t make much sense really. Most of the people he brought were killed right away and Jacob should have known they didn’t stand a chance.

    The idea that they couldn’t get Ben into the church at the end because the script had been written before his character was introduced is kinda dumb.

  11. There is nothing fantastic about writing the End in the beginning if you kill all the characters and gather them in a place (most likely a Church)in the final. Let me explain:
    If you write a final which is very different from the beginning (like you have new characters, lets say Eloise,Widmore ; and remove some main character like Sawyer,Kate,Locke or even Jack), it means that you are taking risks. Because it means that you already wrote the events that are going to happen between beginning and the end. You can not change the story depending on the expectations of the fans. What did the writers of Lost did? they wrote a very cliche ending in the beginning, they added and removed characters recklessly but kept the main characters, put mysteries randomly (not talking about polar bear, talking about statue,wheel etc…). In the beginning, they only had some good characters, the island, smoke monster and Jacob. Hah, by the way, a Light in the center of the island.. a very original idea for a 10-year-old writer.. now, even Jack can not fix this story..

  12. This is a well rounded summary in terms of tying together the FSW world.

    I think it does a good job attempting at defending what happened…but unfortunately I think some things are incorrect, and may contribute further to the confusion…

    Daddy…nice C and P job…it definitely goes in the direction of what happened, and does a hell of a job in defense…

    Some of the things, specifically relating to Jacob and the MIB are issues…

    Good post Daddy. We like Lost for a lot of the same reasons, and I cant express how happy I am to here that you liked the overall show…

  13. Great post! It makes a lot of sense.

    Now just to be nitpicky…

    – What or who is David?
    – What are the numbers? Just numbers Jacob chose? So why are they everywhere? Simply coincidence? Probably that’s the real reason…

    My guesses is that the statue was made by egyptian brought by Jacob at some moment.

    The answer for the sharks and polar bears are pretty obvious. They were made by Dharma. Haven’t they answered it?

    It was a beautiful and emotive ending, simply not the one most people were expecting.

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