daniels time sprial instead of a timeline
This will have been posted before but this is my take on things hope you enjoy it.
So this is what im basing my theory on i ripped this from the transcripts on lostpedia from the episode “Because you left”
FARADAY: The Island… [sighs] think of the Island like a record spinning on a turntable… only now, that record is skipping. Whatever Ben Linus did down at the Orchid station… I think… it may have… dislodged us.
MILES: Dislodged us from what?
FARADAY: Time.
I been thinking about what faraday said for a whille now and thoughts have been going round in my head and the more i think about it i keep coming back to the same idea that maybe time as we all think doesnt flow in a straight line(Timeline) but it sprials round in a circular motion. (ive even thought this more after dabs ouroboros theory and my research into it) So if time does spin round in a spiral every time their was a time skip it wouldnt be jumping backwards and forwards along a long line but mearly skipping from 1 sprial to the next closest 1 like a record skipping to another song on a turntable.
lets see if i can make you visualise this:- put a record on a turntable and turn it on, when the record is spinning (time sprial) put your finger on the playing needle (our losties) and push it along the record. the record still spins but the playing needle is moving to different parts of it causing it to skip. When you let go the music starts playing again but at a different part of the record no more skipping but the playing needle is in a different part of the record (diffent place in time)
Hope you understood that
Now what i keep thinking is what way is the time sprial spinning, is it starting from the middle and spinning outwards for all eternity or has time started at some point on the outside and is sprialing inwards. if this is the case then at some point the sprial will have to stop because it has no where else to go. could this be what the valenzetti equation was trying to work out when the time sprial will end are they going to use the equation to try and expand the sprial to give them more time
i do get what your saying and i understand what faraday said.I would like to agree but,i want to be objective hehe.Lets assume that faraday don’t have a clue what he’s talking about and the only reason he’s even on the island is probably because he’s curious about the goings on based on the visit from desmond.If you remember the visit from des, it was des that told him how things were because faraday initially did’nt have a clue,and the help des gave him is really all he knows about the subject.I would also have to say that faraday has been lying to just about everyone from the start.It’s true that faraday does sound like he knows what he’s talking about, but he’s just winging it.The only real use he’s been since he got to the island is to make the poison gas inert.lies ,lies,lies is all we are going to get from him.He has’nt even explained why the payload was late,all he said was “that’s not good”.Would’nt you like to know why it was late ,because i would?
I understand what you are saying. And (trying to be open-minded) this could be possible. But if this were the case, why didn’t they introduce this earlier in the series? And what about everything else? Smokey the monster, the voices, Ben’s “magic box”, Jacob, the illusions, the button and the numbers, etc. Why would they throw all of that in there if all the island was was a record on a timeloop?
Although, now that I think about it, it could be the case. Maybe the whole world is on this doomed record, and the island is the “motherhouse”. That could explain the numbers and the whole “save the world” crap. But that still doesn’t explain most everything else going on.
Samson, I think I might know what you are referring to, in terms of ‘the record skipping’, and ‘the island’.
That record is still playing, but stuck in a specific time period, and the proof of this is, ‘the losties’ are presently stuck in 1977.
Think of the record, like a ‘looping effect’, in time. We may have missed the actual purpose of why this is occurring. No, I am not referring to the FDW being turned, that is what caused it.
I am referring to the issue, of why it is ‘looping’ in the first place. The record and the player are used as a metaphor for this.
Perhaps, this has more to do with ‘variables’. Recreating the same event, over and over to increase the probability of something happening or not happening.
I find it completely impossible to fathom that all we are seeing is, just some nice sort of story, without any meaning that can be applied to the major events we know occurred on ‘the island’, in the past. And, that there is no scientific way of altering those events.
Anyone who believes in science or sci-fi, should grasp this concept. A scientific explanation does exists.
I fully expect there will be people who disagree with my statements, though.
Dancer I’m not saying this is the only story going on in lost I no we are looking for answers about smokey and Jacob I’m just trying to put my spin (yes pun intended) on why the island was skipping I just keep thinking that statement made by faraday must hold some importance about it all maybe the island is the record player that the record is spinning on
Going to bed now anyway so I will check up tomorrow to see what people think goodnight all
i kinda think being disloged from time doesnt neccesarily mean a time loop or time travel.
dont get me wwrong, i know they are back in the seventies, and miles saw wee miles.
but something tells me this is diffrent from the kinda stuff that weird fed….
im still convinced theirs doubles going about.
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losts-colombo, I can see what you are saying, and that is a possibility.
I am speaking about ‘the island’ when referring to the ‘looping effect’.
Interesting idea, although I think this really doesn’t change much. The story will still be linear.
I did like the part of skipping from one line to another on the record’s spiral, though, I don’t honestly think this will ever be covered in the show. It’s a nice idea of the tme travel may work since it is random.
The real merit thouhgh in this theory seems to be that LOST time itself is similar to a spiral. Along with this and Dab’s post about the Ouroboros, I’ve come the conclusion that LOST time exists in shape of the Ouroboros. I going to do some research to look into further connections. Great job Samson.
Correction: Samson posted the Ouroboros, not Dabs, so all credit back to you on this one Samson.
So reading back further I see that Dabs gave you the idea, or whatever…. So credit to everyone!!!
Trying to give credit where credit is due can be tough…
perhaps because of this… depending where you are currently, you can only skip to certain places in time (moving the pin back and forth but not up and down).
No, I understand what you are saying, I was just pointing out that that doesn’t explain everything. My theories on Lost don’t explain everything either. I think this is a good post and you may be on to something.
Lostprofit glad you liked my ouroboros theory it was because of dabs theory why I researched it and posted it so yes she does deserve a lot of credit towards it and that is also why I posted this 1 it’s been in my head since the beginning of the series and when I was looking up ouroboros I thought I have to post this
Eko you have got my thoughts spot on maybe that is why jack travelled back to 1977 and not 1974 because the record had spun another 3yrs
Also I’m not trying to say their is a loop or anything at play here I’m just trying to explain the timeskips
Hi, I’ve been following these theories for some time now, but I only just now registered.
This Theory is absolutely correct. For I’m about to blow your minds away with what I’m about to say.
Remember way back. When they first showed Desmond waking up inside the hatch washing his hands, making breakfast etc.?
Well guess what else was happening? Remember that record that started playing? And it was some odd off the wall song and we all thought man, that’s old? Really it was foreshadowing from the producers about the theory on time. I think it’s no coincidence that they would show the record player in the hatch playing.
There have been other occurrences of the record starting off an episode to foreshadow this time theory.