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Henry Gales observations.

Did Richard see the losties die? Did he think he saw the losties die after Juliet detonated juggead? Or is he lieing? In fiction there is a literary device called the unreliable narrator. I’m not going to quote any examples of this device because I trust that your all clever enough to either figure it out or research the concept. 

   Personally I think he’s telling a Lie that he and either the losties agreed upon or he and someone else agreed upon. I think Richard Alpert has the unconcious bodies of the losties hidden away in the temple. Wheter he’s safeguarding them or holding them until he can find away to destroy them I’m not sure. 

   You see I don’t think that Richard is a good guy. I’m not sure if he’s a bad guy earlier. He could be losts’ version of Switzerland; neutral. An observer. Not a guide or aide de camp to any leader. An observer. 

   Okay then on to the meat and bones of the theory. I’ll try to keep the quantum physics to a minimum although I do think it’s important to this show, but somebody made a good point recently(just before this site had it’s own incident) about this show being mainly about the characters and their life choices and relationships. After all a mans character is his destiny.  

   Where we are now is that the bomb seems to have exploded. Now to my untrained eye all the losties where well within the range where their physical bodies would have been vaporised. Nothing new here. As has also been speculated on other lost websites I think that the incident at the end of season five is very similar to when Desmond turned the failsafe key. 

   That doesn’t mean that the losties are all gonna wake up naked in the jungle. I do however think that their bodies have been vaporised but their conciousness’s are travelling between time, space, and other realities. Yes I do realize that earlier I said that they were not dead and that Richard had their unconcious bodies at the temple. I think some aspect of time travelling created an alternate reality enabling two different versions of our losties to coexist until both realities converge. For this to happen maybe one set of our losties had to die. 

   Remember the whispers. They were a big part of season one, so was the smoke monster. I believe that the whispers will turn out to be the disembodied voices of our losties. What smokie is I don’t know, maybe it’s that nagging voice at the back of our mind telling us that something isn’t right. Did everyone from flight 816 see it? Or was it just the people from an alternate/parallel universe who were able to see/hear/interact with smokie.

   Conciousness and observation will I think be the prevailing factors in season six. Has their been a council made up of our losties making descions about their own futures/pasts from the very begining, hiding inside the temple either waiting for the right moment to reveal theirselves like a magician revealing the prestige, or lying in state comatose waiting to be reconnected to their conciousness.

   There has been much debate and speculation about different theories in quantum physics in relation to lost. So much so that you would almost think some websites are companion pieces to the damn show. The one theory most mentioned has been the schroedingers cat experiment/theory. I’m too lazy to go into detail about this and anyway all you really need to know is that the end result is about wheter or not the act of observation has an impact upon the state of the subject under obersvation. I. E. Whetrer it exists in one of three states: dead, dying, or alive. Or solid,liquid,gas. Keep this in mind. Smoke is a kind of gas isn’t it?

  Observation: the first shot of the series was jacks eye as he lay just out of sight of the beach. Was this the biggest clue. Is Jack the observer with hidden knowledge? Has he viewed these events in two timelines or realities with the intention of judging the outcome of each so the most preferable option wins out. Or are all the surviving 815ers, the variables, observers. Each one waking up in a bamboo field before being licked awake by Vincent, observing events without their compadres knowing that they have lived something similar in an alt reality/timeline. Or is Ben Linus the observer living the same events over and over through each iteration, each time hoping against hope that this time the 815er that wakes in the bamboo field will do whatever it is that’s needed to be done.  

   The one thing I want answered more than anything else is why? 
   Why did this plane crash onto this island. With these people. Was it really all to keep a time loop going. Or to prove whatever happened happened. Seems a little selfcontained to me. 

   Now if you told me that all the above was true but just a by product of saving mankind from some kind of killer disease(swine/avian) flu anyone?  And in the meantime resetting or repopulating mankind with a disease free/proof version of man/womankind then I’d buy that. 

   The other scenario that I would buy into is also the one I think will prevail to be theory that wins out. I think that two timelines are competing for supremacy. Here’s how it goes: sometime in the future, due to the valzenetti squencence someone comes up with the idea of tweaking (making fate late?) the events that bought about an apocylptic event. Be it a deadly flu virus, the earth toppling on it’s axis due to the melting of the polar icecaps or some such event. In doing so they created a much worse scenario. Maybe instead of seventy five percent of the worlds population dying out ninety percent was wiped out. Or instead of fifty per cent of the earth being flooded seventy was. Whatever they did to make things better only made it worse in the end. Now Jacob and mib have to try and put it right. Problem is that they exist within different realties/timelines and one has to destroy the other. Nothing personal. I believe that the island is the one constant in the multiverse. The place that exists in all realities. The place where you can move between alt realites if you know how. Desmond turned the failsafe and when he did from that point on they where all shifted to an alt reality or the losties we saw from that point of were from this different reality.   

   Or are Jacob and mib the same person (and I don’t mean that in a brad Pitt ed norton fight club way). They could be, due to a Desmond hume version of time conciousness traveling ; either the same man seperated by years, or the same man seperated by alt realites. 
Unlikely I know but only improbable with this show, not impossible.

  From the opening scene of the incident we know that mib is looking for a loophole. So does Jacob. If Jacob knows this then it seems obvious to me that he would think something along the lines of: well if he wants a loophole then I’ll give him a loophole. My point is this: why wait for the train to come down the tracks if you know it’s coming down the track; stepaside. I think that Jacob and ben have long been pulling all our chains. Desmond would never have turned the failsafe if Henry gale had not manipulated John Locke. After all this is the point where everyone started thinking along quantum theory/ shrodingers cat/ quantum suicide lines. It’s also the point where time travel started to rear it’s ugly head through the medium of Daniel Farady conciousness traveling theory. In the next season fate/late alternate universe and dead rockstars turning up on the grounds of loony bins became relevant with the speed of a fat guy calling for a nurse. 
   
   Alt also brings one more scenario to the table as far as jacob and mib are concerened. If two realities exist at the same time there is the possibily that each reality has it’s own god that rules over it’s respective reality. Mib and Jacob could be those gods. The reason then for mibs animosity towards Jacob would be concern for his creation. Could this be the reason behind the animosity between the dharmas and the others. Is the island the place where at all levels, including between acolytes these two gods have decided to commence battle. What the rules to this battle are is anyones guess. But would two gods really talk in the idiomatic vernacular of American English when two of the lead charecters of a new show spent all their screen time together speaking Korean with English subtitles.  

   The magnetic properties of the island are a given, but what does that mean. Ayers rock in Australia (which both John locke and rose visited) is supposed to have magnetic properties.  Could Australia have been a nexus where certain peoples from different realities, needed to perfect the salvation of the future of mankind, converge before they crash landed on another nexus. I.e. The island. 

   In Celtic mythology there is a concept called ley lines. These were lines similar to longitude and latitude lines. But the difference was that a type of power that resided in earth/nature ran through these lines. Some people could tap into this power. Maybe this is what Jacob and mib have done. It could be that they are not gods but higher evolved humans. 

   Are they from the future, children or grandchildren of the losties. There is a joke in the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy that due to an accident with a condom and a time machine one of the characters was his own grandfather. Was Alex the mother or grandmother of ben and widmore. Is that the rule widmore broke by killing her. The grandmother paradox. Or is that what ben meant when widmore asked was he here to kill him. He couldn’t because widmore is his grandfather. Is Jacob Mibs grandfather making the loophole a way to cirum navigate the grandfather paradox. 

   Is there another reason that ties ben, widmore, and ms hawking. It might be possible that they are somekind of time police. Such a unit would only be able to influence or manipulate events towards a favourable outcome (whatever that outcome is) and away from an unwanted outcome. (the valzenitti equation.)   

   There is nothing new under the sun. The older you get the more it seems like it’s all happened before.A kid hears a great new song by a new band. I hear a bad rehash of an old beatles number with a sprinkling of the who. What I’m trying to say is that history repeats itself; sometimes though it takes an aeon for this to happen. Lost has referenced many ancient cultures but I think the most pertinent culture of these is the eygptian culture. The reason I think this is because it’s one of the first ones with any type of technology that is most analogous and compatible on a scale with ours. 
   
   Many ancient cultures had theorys on quantum physics like those hinted at or indirectly referenced within the show (don’t take my word for this check it out for yourselves). They just didn’t call it quantum physics. The most enduring and common  of these theories/beliefs was one of a collective will or conciouness that we could all connect/interact with to manifest reality through force of will/intent to manifest hopes/wishes to change that reality or manipulate it for whatever outcome we desired. This wasn’t just a belief of the Egyptians. In nearly all religions and cultures down through the ages this idea has been proposed or believed. Either in that cultures science or religious belief. It seems to be the place in many cultures the nexus where science and religion meet.

   Another thing nearly all cultures have in common is someone to guide us in our search for god or whatever name each culture gave him or her. The celts had Druids, many cultures had medicine men or witchdoctors or high priests who sacrificed virgins to fire gods before arnie came along and ran them through with a sword and made damn sure that there was no worry about anyone ever mistaking her for a virgin again.  Is that what Richards role is? The man who is the conduit between you and your god or gods.     

   Sacrifice. For the good of the community or for the good of a family is also a theme that runs through diverse cultures. Will lost end with one of the losties sacrifising hiself for the good of his friends or for the greater good of mankind. Is this what Jacob has already done.

   Hurley has always been my favourite character, don’t know why. I have never believed that he talked to dead people. From the moment Charlie came to see him at the nut house after he drowned I was sure that he was alive even though he had drowned. From that moment on I was convinced of the alternate/parallel reality theory. Maybe in season six hurley and miles will able to tell who is really locke and who is flocke if they combine their gifts/talents/curse. Just as an aside their was a Greek prohet called Cassandra. She was cursed because she was fated to always tell the truth but never to be believed. Sound like anyone we know. While we are on the subject of Hurley I have an Observation that I haven’t seen anywhere else. That’s not to say that it hasn’t already been said. If I personably could travel back in time the first thing I’d do would be to find out the lotto numbers/share prices/sporting results and bet until my ass fell off. 

   If observation and judgement are over riding themes of lost then mib is a judge who seems to have deemed Jacob worthy of the judgement of death as per the the conversation they had in the opening scene of the incident. 

   Who judges. Who decides who is worthy or not worthy. It’s usually the most honest or incorruptible amongst us. Is this smokies over riding function?lest us not forget that you can not have judgement without observation of sin or testimony of witness.  Is this Richards function.

  I have long been a believer, (even before the fifth season) that lost has been about a battle between two competing timelines. The writers have stated that Stephen king is an influence. No kidding! Just check out the dark tower series. It’s more than an influence. Stephen King tied up all the loose ends to all his other novels in the dark tower series. The dark tower series turns his lexicon into it’s own universe. Is that what jj abrhams is doing with lost. After all alias ended with an man becoming immortal. He was also trapped in a cave for all eternity. (Adam and eve?) Fringe is a show about alternate realities. 

   Their coming. Okay….but who are they? The 77 losties?The people on the black rock? The children of the losties? Bram and Ilana? All of the above? Who knows. It’s too ambiguous a statement to even make an intelligent guess. So here’s a dumb one, whoever it is the only guess I’d make is that their all coming from the same place…The temple. I will however hazard that all of the children will play a significant role in the last season.  
  
   I suspect that the last episode of lost will revolve around six or maybe seven  charecters. Locke, Jack, hurley, walt, Jacob, mib, and possibly ben or smokie. I think hurley will have to make a choice. I think it will be a choice that will be bittersweet for all of the viewers. I think walt will help to enforce that choice and/or be promoted to either godlike or some other very powerful status. When the dust has settled I think hurley will be the last charecter standing alone on the island and that we will see/hear him making a recording of the numbers.      
 
   I have a feeling that in the last season we will find that mankind in the future has almost turned full circle and a type of eygptian culture once more prevails.(wasn’t the orginal title of this show the circle). Instead of flasbacks or forwards this season I think we will see the losties in all three states,dead, dying, and alive.

   What I mean by this is that in the beginning they will be dead,somewhere in the middle of the season we’ll see them killed of one by one, and in the end we’ll be shown an alternate reality where everyone from flight 815 lives happily ever after. To my guess season six begins and ends in lax. Will Richard Alpert be the observer or will it be the first tv show that turns the viewer into a character and will you the viewer be the observer who decides wheter schroedingers cat lives or dies.
  
    
                 

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19 thoughts on “Henry Gales observations.

  1. You bring up many interesting aspects. But if the whispers come from dead Losties, why do the whispers seem to be correlated with the appearance of the Others?

  2. Wow these are some really good thoughts. And i love your idea about an unreliable narrator, wheather its richard alpert or not, a lie based on an agreement from another time period seems exactly like something that would come up in lost.

  3. Hi daddyx, a long read, but a thoroughly enjoyable one!

    If there are alternate time-lines, and I believe that there are, is it plausible to believe that Richard may have actually seen ‘the losties’ die? Definitely one consideration, although it is possible, as you suggest that Richard is lying.

    Did you watch The Prisoner recently? I see some elements of ‘the observer’ here, which I also like, in addition to the ‘consciousness’
    you speak of.

    I particularly like what you have inferred regarding ‘the dead’. The writers joked in one of their Podcts last t year, that the seventh season, if they were to do one, would be entitled, the ‘zombie’ season. So, I also believe that there are elements of what you have to say about the ‘temple’ being the place where we might see some of ‘the dead’ again. I like the tie-ins with the ancient culture.

    There is no doubt that Stephen King has been a major influence for the writers of Lost, in addition to others.

    Nice theory!

  4. just finished reading this and i think it’s really really good. there is so much to comment on that i don’t know where to begin and may need to read through it again first.

    one thing that came to mind when i was reading this was The Sixth Sense. i wonder if there will be a similar sort of event/moment in S6 whereby we discover that one of the characters has always been in contact with the Losties by using one of their special powers, but in contact with them via another reality or time line (or something like that, if you know what i’m getting at!) It’ll be one of those events where we’ll all go back to the first season, rewatch it i think why didn’t we notice this before!

  5. Hi all. First to ileintheshadow you are right and wrong. The whispers were ALWAYS there when the losties were. We don’t know if the others heard them. Hey dabs haven’t seem the prisoner yet but I do know the observer theory plays a huge part in fringe. Glad you got the oblique dead people reference(working on something there.) Hello I am Jacob always pleased to raise a laugh. Yes I know what you mean. I think when the last episode airs we will all be scrabbling back to one episode in particular.

  6. daddyx, I’m not sure what you mean when you say that “the whispers were always there when the losties were”. Rousseau had heard the whispers when the losties were not around, right? Rousseau seemed to connect the whispers with the Others, didn’t she?

  7. Test away man. I’m not a rewatcher so there’s lot I forget. Lost always seems to be on the same night I have my weekly beers there are whole episodes I’ve watched while drunk and had no memory of the next morning.

  8. daddyx. A great read and a well constructed theory. I agree there are alternate timelines involved here and i also believe those timelines will be unified due to the detonation of jughead. I vaguely remember in Star Trek TNG, an episode where the enterprise was caught in some sort of temporal event and there were loads of Enterprises popping up everywhere. I think the rift was sealed by some sort of detonation in a specific area and i submit that this may be akin to the detonation of jughead. The explosion will unify the timelines as one (this may have been covered before so sorry if nicking someone elses idea). Where this would leave the losties and in what year god only knows but thats what i think will happen. I also remember hearing somewhere, and Dabs or another expert may be bald to back me up here, that the final scene was filmed long ago while Walt was still small and Jack was in the scene too. That would prove they had the ending sorted for ages and would be very clever. RR.

  9. hahaha Roadrunner, that was cute! If recollection serves me on this one, I believe it was rumoured that Jack shot the final scene with Walt, when Walt was still young.

    The writers have played this one very coy, by not stating that it is true or false. Chances are….

  10. I’ve heard too many rumours about the last scene. It deserves it’s own website now. If it was filmed when walt was younger does that mean that Jack and Walt have been in kahoots (I’ve always wanted to use that word in a sentence. Now I have it’s probably spelt wrong.) all along.

  11. I don’t think they will be in cahoots, but i do think it will be something along the lines of Walt telling Jack whats what as i think he will be the important character in the finale along with Hurley.

  12. “Don’t get the flash forward reference. It’s not on over here yet.”

    Sure it is! Every time you wake up and don’t remember what happened last night, you’re experiencing flash forward. At least that’s my theory. B)

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