Light(house) vs. Dark(cave)
Jacob has written the names of candidates on each degree at his “lighthouse” (makes it seem like there is a max of 360 candidates, but that is irrelevant). These same names are written in a cave. I believe that the lighthouse is where Jacob investigated, watched and help guide the candidates. A lighthouse is a tool for guidance.
The cave is where MIB/flocke writes these same names. His goal is to eliminate these candidates (although he can not kill them directly). The cave is dark, where light does not enter, where the candidates’ souls are extinguished. Flocke seemed to enjoy crossing Locke off the wall.
Light vs dark has been a central theme in Lost, and I believe it is starting to be confirmed that indeed Jacob is good and Flocke evil. They are playing a game with the souls of a select few. When all the candidates are gone, Flocke will have won the game, and get to go “home”. However, these candidates are the only ones that can kill Flocke (which is why Jacob’s bodyguards had no effect).
The light in the island is diminishing, as Flocke slowly consumes the Island in darkness. Next week’s episode is called Sundown. Let’s hope there is a Sunrise to come after
Great metaphor, nice catch. This actually makes my theory which I just posted pretty pointless. It is much more likely the lighthouse is all about the symbolism you mention. Good one!
Ya for some reason I didnt think that the cave was Jacob’s in the first place but the location of the cave of that cliff is a pretty good hiding spot from smokie since he cant really climb down ladders over water.
We also saw names crossed out at the light house so really there wouldnt be much use for Jacob but the cave did look very abandoned for sometime but the candidtate’s names seem to be up to date.
In light (;)) of your comparison of the dark cave and the light-house, think about this.
Smokey/MiB ‘lured’ Sawyer to the cave through Locke’s body. Jacob ‘lured’ Jack to the lighthouse through Hurley. Pretty big connection if you ask me.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we will see a Jack vs. Sawyer ‘battle’ somewhere in the season.
Eko,
I like this, it would be a nice opposition of ‘light’ and ‘dark’.
Now i’m pretty sure that cave with the crossed off candidates was not Jacobs, if only it was this easy to sway you to my way of thinking ;o)
I had thought while watching Nemesis enter the cave with Sawyer that it was Nemesis’ handwriting on the walls instead of Jacob’s. He never said who wrote it (not that he would tell the truth anyway).
I’m not sure if “Nemesis can’t kill candidates” because 321 on the wall in the cave is “Fernandez”, which may be referring to Nikki (of Nikki and Paulo). The producers confirmed that the Smoke Monster generated the Medusa Spiders that put Nikki into a coma.. of course, it didn’t actually kill her as she was buried alive, so maybe this actually helps the case.. but then why not just put people into comas left and right, especially while on the beach and watch them drown?
Perfect! You’ve nailed it, ekolocation! Good vs. evil is the ultimate universal theme of so many wonderful stories throughout the ages. And it seems that all the “shades of gray” moral relativists in the audience have been eerily silent this past week.
On the subject of the rules–Flocke not being able to kill candidates–maybe he can’t DIRECTLY kill them, but he can influence them to go down the dark path and get themselves into trouble so they eventually lead to their own demise.
Anyone else notice #51 – Austen, not crossed out!
sayid seems to be infected, then why did Jacob have Hurley lead him to the temple? the water changed color per Jacobs death, maybe that is why. I like the idea of it coming down to Jack v Sawyer, if they are in fact replacing jacob and mib. Is Whidmore the one coming to island to help jacob? Looks like the shitstorm starts next week, we need some death to start weeding people out of the equation
thanks everyone…
@imiss, that is what i was trying to say…he can’t directly kill a candidate, but he gives little pushes like jacob that lead to the death of candidates.
@josh- yes i did…why 51?? i was thinking maybe kate was 108. Who the hell is Wallace?
I’m loving this…. I think at the end of the lighthouse, there is no doubt in my mind that Focke is evil. He helped make Claire insane, so there isn’t really a question of who’s good, and who’s bad in that context anymore imho.
Sinster,
I agree, i think the ambiguity has been kept up to keep us guessing, but its now clear Jacobs good and MIBs bad. The losties are definitely the good guys, but when it comes to the others, temple guys, Ben, Widmore etc i’m still not sure about any of them.
Hi ekolocation, nice pick-up on the metaphor of black and white with the cave and the lighthouse.
Although it appears that Nemesis might dwell on the ‘dark’ side and Jacob on the ‘light’, I am still reserving judgment. I really want to believe this to be true, yet I have always been mindful of what seemingly is the obvious choice.
I still see the ‘grey’ areas with both.
PS: ekolocation I just wanted to add that I know that Nemesis has lied to both Claire and Sawyer already. If Jacob is lying we haven’t caught him…..yet
One important additional thought I have pertaining to the ‘360’ degree reference is, that it is a statement commonly used when stating that somebody/something has done a full ‘360’.
Jacob says that “it only ends once…..everything that happens in between is just progress”. I feel this adds further meaning to his statement. The implication is, that this is the ‘last’ kick at the can, so to speak.
i believe that in the upcoming way back when episode showing Richard the MIB and Jacobs back stories we will see that the MIB went to the lighthouse which was either Jacobs at the time or possibly someone else’s and took a note of every single name somehow – but hey, maybe he was the smoke monster by this point, and has like the biggest memory in the world – anyway i think that its kind of ‘obvious’ in a way now that Jacob didnt write the names on the rock walls, why would he do it twice over unless he was so God Damned bored out of his nut?
thanks for your thoughts. i agree that it is not set in stone that mib is evil and jacob is good.
another thing most people haven’t even mentioned is that maybe the others DO have aaron. maybe they took him from momma littelton off the island. wouldn’t that be a twist?
Love it! Great catch!
oooh Eko,
What you just said about Aaron with mother Littleton, thats interesting.
I’ve always got an odd vibe from her, since the Oceanic 6 returned to the outside world anyway. Wasn’t she in a coma and as good as dead when Claire left for the island?
she was in a coma yes, and met christian for the first time there. maybe he was there on behalf of jacob to heal her? everything always comes back to christian. we better learn something about him soon.
But Christian was trying to convince Claire to turn off the life support, WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN!
haha i wish i knew buddy i wish i knew
Those that have said whoever wrote the names must’ve been different because it would be illogical may still be wrong. Remember, the lighthouse’s purpose was for Jacob (or whoever) to pinpoint the location of anyone whose name was on the correct bearing. AT least the impression I got was that the images being seen were as they are in the current day.
This could mean that the cave could have another purpose? I still think MIB throwing out the lighter stone in the cave still has more significance than just getting rid of another ‘metaphor’ for Jacob. Also, if MIB is chained to the island anyway I don’t entirely think he would need a really out’ve place, hard to get to hiding place. Even if he was allowed to write on the walls and deck his pad out with the sickest scales 😉