Hawking and Widmore working with Hanso/Dharma/the Degroots off island, thoughts?

ok, i’m just speculating here, but i just thought i’d throw it out there.
I’ve always thought Dharma/Hanso would come back into play. I think we will be seeing Widmore again this season, is it possible that they’re all working together off island for the greater good?

Hawking helped the Oceanic 6 get back to the island by using that ‘abandoned’ Dharma station, why would they just abandon such an important place? I propose they didn’t, i say Hawking was working with Dharma to get the losties back. Dharmas gotta still be in action, we know the people they had on the island got wiped out, but their headquarters was off island in Ann Arbour.

We know theres a connection between Widmore and Hawking already. Now, Widmores corporation was the very same one that organized the boat race which Desmond took part in, he ended up on the island because of this.
The widmore labs logo appears on the side of the balloon that landed on the island flown by the real Henry Gale.
Widmores company also work in construction.
More importantly, Widmore pregnancy tests have appeared on the island, along with Dharma brand products. Coincidence? I think not.
With their shared interests in the island and whatever grave danger it is they’re all trying to prevent, is it not possible that their all working together off island? Who better to help the Hanso corporation/Dharma than two former natives, one being a former leader?

Maybe we’ll see them all return to it this season!

This to me seems like another thing thats been staring me right in the face, and somehow i didn’t see it.
Let me know what you think.

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17 thoughts on “Hawking and Widmore working with Hanso/Dharma/the Degroots off island, thoughts?

  1. Looks legit to me. It would be nice to see evryone, I mean EVERYONE be working for the greater good.

    Widmore seems to come across as extremely cold though. He seems greedy to the bone. How he’s as rich as he is in so little time is evidence of that….Unless the rich Hanso family has funded his efforts all along. Maybe Widmore’s company was all a cover in order to get back to the island in the long run.

    Very nice!

  2. I agree… I think the DI is going to come back into play or at least whatever elements of it remain. Obviously they were evicted from the island but some of them may still be operating in Ann Arbor… or maybe Widmore just acquired the stuff that they had left after they became defunct.

  3. Thats what i’m thinking,
    some of that money was spent on organizing the boat race that Desmond took part in, we all know what happened to Desmond.
    I reckon we’re gonna see that Widmore and Desmond have also formed an alliance.

    I’m cooking up a crazy theory that Jacob might be involved with Dharma somehow also, but thats still in the oven.

  4. And Widmore was funding Daniels Experiments, the same Daniel who gave Jack the idea to use the bomb at the drill site, after his time in Ann Arbor i might add…

  5. Oooooh,

    I know i keep posting on my own theory, but i just had another thought.

    Dharma were on the island, some got evacuated during the incident, others got wiped out during the purge. But THE HANSO FOUNDATION was funding the Dharma iniative, and they were not on the island
    We’ve never seen anyone from this organization.
    Could it be them who have knowledge of what is happening and they’re orchestrating alot of this stuff?

  6. So correct me if I’m wrong but is’nt Widmore Daniel Ferredays father? So that would make Penny and Daniel at least half siblings. Also does anyone know what sun’s maiden name was? Hanso definately sounds Asian and I know her father was rich and powerful. Could she possibly have been born Sun Hanso?

  7. I just found this when researching Paik industries,

    this is a Hanso corp phone message from the lost experience

    ‘You’ve reached the office of Dr. Thomas Werner Mittelwerk, Senior Vice President, CEO and Chief Technologist of the Hanso Foundation. I will be unreachable for the next three weeks. However, for those employees of Paik Heavy Industries and Widmore Corporation engaged in active projects, I will be continuously updating the confidential information line. Please refer to your project manual for hotline access instructions. Thank you, and, namaste’

    i’m sure alot of you already knew about this and i’m a little slow.

    It would seem theres some sort of billionaire boys club going on. Wonder what Paiks involvement is? Thats if this is canon anyway.

  8. Good connections!

    And along with that, if there is any sort of knowledge about what could potentially occur with Ben/MIB/Jacob, it is an interesting twist to the “greater good” idea…with Widmore being so anti-Ben, and then Hawking actually having a hand in helping Ben return to the island.

    Just a random thought as “greater good” is so subjective at this point.

  9. Kimberley,

    some good thoughts there, maybe Ben is the ‘inside man’. I was just reminded of the scene where Ben stopped Locke from hanging himself. As soon as John mentioned Miss Hawking Ben killed him, i wonder what that was all about?

  10. I know this sounds really naive or weak in sense of an arguement but i’ve got to disagree with you Cheifof16 simply due to the fact that Widmore was well aware of the ‘Lamp Post’ as he gave the details and location of it’s whereabouts to Desmond.

    Great post though SF. I’ve got a feeling we might be looking back at Series 2’s ideas of different things being a social experiment and linking the whole Science/Religion and Facts/Faith debate.

    Season 6 easily looking like some of the greatest television ever written.

  11. yeah completely agree daniel was the clever fellow who built the lamp-post when he went off island in ’74….he may have used the “paradox” that is – the journal!!

  12. Widmore and Hawking were both leaders at different times. And yes it is canon that Paik and Widmore are business buddies. Which makes me think that Widmore knew about Sun and the candidates thing long ago and chose to attach himself to thier families doings.

  13. TheresaFallsUpTheStairs

    I completely agree that i think the whole science vs faith thing is going to come up again,, and will be quite important this season.

    I have a feeling that whatever huge ‘event’ is coming up, the war will be between one side who are trying to change/stop it (science) and the opposing side who believe its fate/supposed to happen (faith). I’m just thinking out loud.

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