my thoughts on Jacob, MIB, and the ending
I have a hard time believing that Jacob has always been so squeeky clean. Now I genuinely believe that Jacob is good, and it feels like he’s been set up as a Saint like figure or angel or perhaps even a version of God, but I think his backstory with MIB will reveal something else. So I have a few ideas:
Perhaps MIB and Jacob did used to be just men, but they became the way they were because of something that happened on the island. Now we have seen that the island has the potential for time travel and even has a ‘healing pool’ at the temple. Perhaps though there is a place on the island though that could bestow you with the ultimate of gifts; to become God. To have the powers of the Gods. Or at least great powers beyond out immagination.
supposing Jacob and MIB came to the island just like everybody else. And perhaps they learned from the cultures that had been there before them that all kind of wonders lay on the island, but there were warnings about messing with the islands potential. Now supposing MIB did used to be a man, and maybe he lost someone he loved. Now maybe in his grief Jacob persuaded him to try and obtain the power to bring this person back. But maybe Jacob was only acting in his own self interest. Maybe there was a place on the island that promised great power, but also a great curse. Perhaps Jacob set up MIB unintentionally, maybe they turned a wheel like at the orchid and MIB got hit by the curse and Jacob got hit by the God powers. Now for some reason the evil cannot trump the good, it’s at it’s mercy. So MIB is taken over by evil, loses his humanity and maybe even his body. He is a formless soul. Maybe Jacob realises the dangers of this, that evil wishes to spread. Maybe it infects the rest of their ‘tribe’ maybe Jacob has to kill them. Jacob resolves there and then that the power he wanted has come with the responsibility that evil must be kept in it’s prison. The island is it’s prison and Jacob is it’s master that it cannot kill. Maybe MIB wants to escape the island and infect everyone as a sort of revenge to Jacob, so that everyone is as empty as him and all the good goes from the world. Maybe Jacob realises that the only way to blot out evil is show it that the human heart is good, and if he can get MIB to see this then he can wipe it out forever.
However Jacob realises that one day MIB is going to find a way to kill him. He’s going to find a loop and a willing acomplice. So he begins to weave his own plan, so that it’s clear that Jacob can choose another to take his place. His never ending list of candidates. But supposing Jacob is weaving a tapestry that will take even longer to play out than MIB’s loop. MIB used time travel to secure him Lockes form, but maybe thats exactly what Jacob wants him to do, he wants him to take Lockes form specifically because John was such a man of faith and good and who believed. Then Jacob knew the incident would open up a tangent universe where Locke and his goodness still existed and that somone like Desmond and someone like Jack could then bridge the two timelines and what we find is Lockes consciousness being reborn in MIB’s body. I think the candidate is the person who will show pure faith in Jacob and I think it is Jack. I think Jack will be responisble for Locke being reborn inside MIB, and as such MIB will become trapped inside John. Locke will become the cork; he is both the new Jacob (protector of the island) and evil incarnate. They will be the one form at last. trapped in the one body.
I think this was Jacobs plan all along. I think he was a man who got curious about the island and let out the darkness by accident. I then think he spent the rest of his life trying to find a way to put things right. Not a saint or a God, just a man who had to redeem himself.
I guess we will see how things play out in the next few episodes, but I reckon Jack will play a huge role, Desmond (who Sayid obviously didnt kill) an even bigger role, we’ll see the true intentions of Charles Widmore, hopefully Ben will sacrifice himself for something good to make up for killing Jacob, and we’ll get the Jacob MIB backstory that I’m dying to see so we can make sense of why these kids keep turning up to wind up MIB! (I reckon they are possibly Jacob flashing through time, or Jacob doing a Walt and appearing with no explanation)
Either way I hope the seires ends with no loose threads, thats why I think the Losties will either die, live on in the alt universe, and the island will definitely sink.
he seemed to be weaving his plan well before MIB made it clear he wants to kill him which makes me think Jacob was scheming before MIB thought about finding a loophole which to me means: Adavantage Jacob.
I hope they have a jacob/mid episode, that will be the best one ever and that is saying a lot
I think Jacob is as good as the Christian God:
1. He thinks He is good.
2. He wants others to think He is good.
3. People claim that He is good.
But he really isn’t.
(My opinion.)
Ilie, it’s ironic, the things you believe about the Christian God, is similar to how MIB sees man:
1. People think they’re good
2. People want other people to think they’re good
3. Jacob claims they’re good.
The show will have it’s own answer..
What if Jacob is so stuck on proving that people are “good” – or better than the worst thing they do, they can change, blah blah…. because he himself if one of the those people that needs redemption. All of the main characters have killed someone, directly or indirectly (this was mentioned in the enhanced Ab Aeterno). Maybe Jacob killed someone around the time that he and the MIB become the beings they are now (however that might happen). Maybe he killed the creepy boy in the jungle.
Very good theories there! Maybe… just maybe, the blonde boy is Jacob and he killed someone. Maybe they are brothers and Jacob killed their father and that’s why the boy had the hands full of blood and that’s why their mother got crazy.
Possibly Jacob feels regret for murdering and that why he decided to spend the rest of his life on the island. MIB lost someone he loved, in this case his father and feels anger and disappointment about all humanity for it. Jacob wants to repent for his acts and decided to show his brother that he can be good and that humanity is good too and he won’t let him go until he proves his point and his brother forgives him.
MIB is not evil, but he can’t stand his brother, that’s why he wanted to kill Jacob so badly and he is also desperate after being stuck for more than one thousand years in the island.
I’m not sure as this is exactly what happens, but I wouldn’t be surprised as something like that was true and neither Jacob nor MIB are completely good or evil.
Interesting pilouuuu. MIB’s talk about his crazy mother made me forget that there was obviously a father. But what about him? All the best cowboys have daddy issues – I suppose your father being murdered by your brother (or friend) would be a pretty big issue. That could have easily drove mother crazy. Maybe the consequence of the murder was to force Jacob and MIB into this “game” – making MIB’s assessement that if his mother hadn’t gone crazy, things would be very different – very true indeed.
When Jacob died, the healing pool lost its power…..but what if Jacob was once hurt really badly and he was tossed into the pool to heal him? We did see that ghost boy with his hands all bloody?
My point is that when Ben was taken to the healing pool we were told that he would always be different and be “one of them”. I think that basically meant that he would always belong to the island and would defend the island. What if Jacob was healed in the pool and since then has been more concerned about whats best for the island and goes along with the plan to keep Smokey trapped than he is about being morally “squeaky clean.” Kinda fits in with Ben’s behavior since we saw him get shot.
I think I agree with the Jacob committing a murder. I think he and his brother flee from this on a boat and somehow end up on the Island (where their past doesn’t matter). Jacob is trying to atone for his sins and realizes the Island is special and his brother just wants to leave (like Jack and Locke through the first bunch of seasons). In order to stay on the Island himself, Jacob has to “trap” his brother (like Locke blowing up the submarine). But instead of that he somehow tricks his brother into becoming the smoke monster forever tied to the Island so they don’t have to leave. They discover the secrets and the “rules” and have been there ever since. And here is where I totally agree with Pilouuu on Jacob proving his bro wrong. I think they also discover that they are not the first people that the Island has “captured” and they know they won’t be the last…now I’m rambling..