Jack, MIB’s Loophole, The Incident & Candidates
I think it was the MIB’s intentions to have them killed in the 70’s incident by explosion of the hydrogen bomb. This is why he completely orchestrated the movement of the island in the first place so he could engage in his loophole. He thought that by trapping the candidates in the 70’s, killing them by way of the hydrogen bomb and killing Jacob he would be able to freely get off the island without anyone being able to contest him in anyway form or fashion – however, he didn’t know one thing – Jack’s gift.
Nobody can die as a result of Jack’s doing but when someone interferes then it changes the outcome (sawyer/sayid in the sub with explosives is a prime example of this). Jack throwing the bomb into the well in the 70’s incident, nothing happened — Jack lighting the dynamite, nothing happened.
Jack’s gift allowed him to toss the hydrogen bomb into the well and nothing happen which provoked Juliet to hit the bomb with the rock – this is what caused the explosion. I think it’s also why Juliet said ‘it worked’ not because the bomb solved everything. But the fact that SHE caused the explosion and not Jack allowed it to ‘work’.
Since Juliet isn’t a candidate – none of the candidates died because it was HER actions which caused the explosion, not Jack’s. This is what MIB didn’t realize. He thought that Jack would end up throwing the bomb into the well – it would go off and since he’s a candidate it was SUPPOSED to kill the others and everyone on the island IN the 70’s.
It’s the same way he didn’t know about Hurley’s gift of talking with dead people when he enlightened Richard. This is also why Jacob wasn’t afraid to die and ALSO told MIB ‘they’re coming’. He’s not referring to widmore or anybody – he’s referring to the candidates. This catches MIB by surprise since he thought they would die in the 70’s incident and makes him realize that he has more scheming to do.
I believe that actions caused by Jack won’t end up in a catastrophic ending but if a candidate interferes with it then it can change the outcome. I think that’s the purpose of the candidates entirely, they can alter events themselves on the island. They are able to change events and outcomes of what happens in the past and so on.
This seems to be what happens when Sawyer interferes with the bomb, this is also why Sayid takes the bomb and runs to the other side of the sub – because candidates can kill each other except Jack – he’s the exception. They didn’t believe in Jack, they interfere with the event and thus a catastrophic event happens.
Excellent
I like the idea of Jack’s gift, I never noticed or thought about that. I guess you can also point of what happened at the Black Rock with the dynamite an Arzt.
But back to the your theory, im sure that Smokey thought that the losties in 1977 died as a result of Jughead going off, one second they are there then an explosion an poof, theres not a trace, so you are probably right about that.
Awesome. Great thoughts.
Really good!
I think the Losties coming back are when Jacob’s and MIB’s big plans start merging. They both needed them back on the Island as part of their plans or to win the game. MIB needed them there to kill them and Jacob needed them there to kill or prove MIB wrong. I can see what you’re saying about MIB having them drop the bomb, it could have killed them all..but it also could have been part of Jacob’s plan to put them in the position they are in now with the knowledge they have now. MIB seems to know that they are in 70’s based on Christian telling Sun she had a long journey ahead of her to see Jin again (unless he just meant she would have to die to see him in the Real World/Alt).
If a living John Locke (maybe from alt) comes to the Island, will this mess with smokie since he can only take the form of the dead??
Wow good thoughts secretlostguy..I never came close to making the connection of Jughead not going off maybe same reason dynamite doesn’t go off..
So there might be 2 verifiable “rules” so far when it comes to candidates: A non-candidate’s actions can not kill a candidate (such as Juliet detonating Jughead), and likewise only a candidate’s actions can kill a candidate..
This makes sense when it comes to the 815 crash; the pilot wasn’t a candidate, so his actions as a pilot couldn’t kill the candidates. And I’m thinking the only non-candidates that survived the crash were ones sitting in the vicinity of candidates, because the same miraculous occurences that saved candidates in the crash helped save people sitting close to them..
Oh ya, one last thought that hit me, maybe that’s why the young boy in the woods is telling Flocke “you can’t kill them” because Flocke is a candidate! Flocke is really Locke! (I hope!!)
Nice! He who stands alone.
This is really good! I never thought of it. Its funny, but if you take this theory one step further, couldn’t infact Jack become/is/was MIB? I mean, MIB has the same limitations… he can not “directly” kill the candidates or Jacob.
Just to add… the last thin Sayid said last week…
JACK: Why are you telling me this?
SAYID: Because it’s going to be you, Jack.
“It” could be the chosen candidate, but why would Sayid know this? More likely, the “it” could be smokie… I mean, after all, Sayid spent a lot of time with “it” lately and “it” is fitting for smokie..
Sorry… I dont mean to hi-jack the thread… but this whole thing has set my mind wondering… If Jack can not directly kill certain people, perhaps Ben knew this and was the reason he wanted Jack to perform the surgery on him?
I just think ben wanted jack because they were on an Island in the middle of nowhere (literally) and he was the only spinal surgeon. but interesting thought..I think Ben knows more than he is letting on too, but that may be just wishful thinking